IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2019-08-09

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also_uplimehttps://crux.nu/Wiki/BuildingISO this is still accurate right?01:57
also_uplimeeven though it looks to be for 3.001:57
also_uplime(i'd like to run a modified version of 3.5 with a prebuilt kernel and some packages pre-installed)01:59
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jaegerIt's a little out of date. I'll try to write up something tomorrow that's current02:54
also_uplimeoh, thansk02:59
also_uplimethanks*02:59
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: libuninameslist: initial import12:36
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: potrace: initial import12:36
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: [notify] fontforge: 20190413 -> 20190801 new dependencies: libuninameslist potrace12:36
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cruxbot[xorg.git/3.5]: libinput: update to 1.14.013:53
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: wpa_supplicant: update to 2.913:53
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: dialog: update to 1.3-2019080813:53
cruxbot[core.git/3.5]: man-db: update to 2.8.6.113:54
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: iwd: update to 0.1913:55
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: clamav: updated to version 0.101.314:11
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nemanja27is crux like gentoo? i mean do you compile everything?22:04
ryuoi couldn't hear you over the sound of those cores building ports. ;)22:06
t58I guess, just without the soft embrace of portage22:07
also_uplimeexcept gentoo can be built with 3 commands http://bash.org/?46438522:08
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nemanja27emerge gnome mozilla-firefox openoffice oh man this looks painful22:10
nemanja27it will take22:10
nemanja2710 hours22:10
nemanja27at least22:10
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john_cephalopoda30 for firefox, 30 for rust - minimum.22:24
john_cephalopodaRight now, CRUX doesn't even ship openoffice because it's so ugly to package.22:24
john_cephalopoda(There is an openoffice package, but it is binary, extracted from the .rpm)22:25
john_cephalopodaOh, nemanja already left.22:25
also_uplimeim glad i only use crux for server stuff. the desktop is always a nightmare for me to build by hand22:26
weednixalso_uplime: that's why I come up with full time job to get crux as my desktop / server.22:28
weednixonly after forking and leting things become a bit obsolete had time to start looking around other than maintaining and configuring my system.22:28
weednixbut I'm loving it to much, learned to much, will never go back again.22:29
also_uplimeyeah, it's definitely a learning experience22:30
also_uplimeI'm going to start a project soon to a user shell thing with crux22:30
also_uplimegoing to be a lot of fun22:30
john_cephalopodaI am not that busy with managing my system.22:32
john_cephalopodaI build some packages from time to time, in the background while browsing and stuff.22:32
john_cephalopodaOnce it's set up, there isn't really much more to configure.22:32
john_cephalopodaI'm running CRUX as my main OS on all my boxen. My desktop, my laptop and my RasPi3 (web server).22:33
also_uplimei'm too much of a mac fanboy to use something else as my main os L>22:34
also_uplime:>22:34
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jaegeralso_uplime: I created https://crux.nu/Wiki/OfficialISOBuildProcess just now. It's mostly from memory/notes but I think it's correct. I'll try to run through the process on a clean VM sometime soon to verify, though23:02
also_uplimecool, thanks. i'm gonna be doing some testing with a vm as well, ill let you know what happens23:03
also_uplimejaeger: couple of quick questions if you don't mind (since im new to building isos) - (a) if i dont do this on crux, would i need a cross compiler? (b) do you happen to know which script is the entry point that launches the shell? i glanced briefly through it, and thought it might be initramfs/init but wanted to make sure23:06
jaegerNo problem. I will probably mark the old doc as obsolete or remove it sometime soon, it was fairly outdated anyway23:06
jaegercross-compiling is only necessary if your system is of a different architecture, not a different distro23:06
also_uplimeah, good point23:07
jaegerinitramfs/init is indeed the "entry point" so to speak. It's responsible for finding the install media and mounting it, then switching root to the rootfs, which boots a normalish CRUX environment using sysvinit23:07
also_uplimegreat info, thanks!23:08
jaegernp23:08
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