IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2019-12-07

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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: neomutt: 20191129 -> 2019120700:37
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: bubblewrap: build will fail if libxslt is installed witout docbook-xsl, fix check01:51
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vlnxHi, I haven't been on irc for awhile, or updated my crux. I'm in the process of that now and was wondering about the "new" .signature files. md5 to sha256 is fine, but I git mirror my port collections so is there any benefit to the individual signing as commit signing exists.07:54
TimB_if you don't publish your ports to the portdb, there is no need to generate .signature files07:56
vlnxBut .md5sum files are deprecated?07:57
TimB_they are not used in core/opt/contrib/*07:57
TimB_so, no idea if it's actually flagged as deprecated, but kind of, yes07:57
TimB_gotta go, good luck07:57
vlnxI was just thinking I'd further mod my pkgmk to check some sums from provided signature files. Thanks for the response!07:58
Romsteryou mean from gpg signed keys? them .asc files?08:02
vlnxguess so, the .signature files that are now generated08:05
Romsterhttps://crux.nu/Wiki/SignedPorts08:10
ryuoIt's just a sign of the times. ;)08:11
Romsterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9YxTXDiiFY08:12
RomsterEVERYONE needs to learn LINUX - ft. Raspberry Pi 408:12
vlnxI booted up a netbook for the first time in awhile that still has crux 3.108:18
Romsteroh boy you got a long path of updates08:18
Romsterwhat made you stop using it?08:19
vlnxwell my main laptops have been on 3.4, just going to pretty much reinstall up to 3.5 on it. just have to review all my modifications08:20
Romsteryou can upgrade 3.4 to 3.508:20
Romsterthen run rejmerge to merge/update/keep changes to configs08:21
vlnxso port files still use bashisms? lol08:24
ryuowhy not? they're designed for crux and bash is the default shell.08:25
ryuothey don't need to be portable.08:25
vlnxnot dash? I just use dash for scripts then a minimal zsh for interactive use08:27
Romsterwe use dash for pkgmk08:28
Romsteryou can use any shell you like for your home08:28
Romsterbash kcsh you choose08:28
vlnxoh pkgmk uses dash? I didn't realize/remember. I thought it sourced pkgfiles in bash08:29
Romsterused to08:29
Romsterthat changed as dash is significantly faster08:29
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jueto clarify: pkgmk is still a bash program but we changed /bin/sh to be a sysmlink to /bin/dash, mostley because the autconf stuff calls a lot of shells which is siginficantly faster with dash11:27
john_cephalopodaI had some issues before, with programs that required /bin/sh to be bash.11:34
john_cephalopodaI think it was blender. But recent versions work with dash now.11:36
jueyeah, in some ports we have to pass CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/bash to configure11:42
cruxbot[core.git/3.5]: sysklogd: update to 2.0.311:49
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: tcsh: update to 6.22.0211:50
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: scite: update to 4.2.211:56
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: protobuf-c: 1.3.1 -> 1.3.213:01
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: protobuf: 3.7.0 -> 3.11.113:01
john_cephalopodaAhrg, spam mail is horrible.13:24
john_cephalopodaI can totally live with the occasional mail saying "Hi, we sell <xyz>. Here is a link to our website and alibaba: <Link without affiliate crap> "13:24
john_cephalopodaBut when they send the same mail every 2 days, use links with tracking strings to find out who clicked them and don't even put any effort into the text, then I'm getting annoyed.13:25
john_cephalopodaI reported them to their domain registrars a few times already, but now they got one in China that doesn't really speak English and doesn't seem to care much about complaints.13:28
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john_cephalopodaMaybe I should look up all the sender domains. If they are all registered at one place, maybe they are registered by one single entity and they get kicked for ToS violation...13:37
Romsterget them listed on a RBL13:39
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TheCephalopodRomster: How do I get them on a blocklist? Apparently spamhaus doesn't take reports from regular citizens.13:46
TheCephalopodThe Chinese registrar said they would look into things if their domains show up on block lists, but until the domains are there... Meh.13:48
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: libunbound: update to 1.9.515:33
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Romsterjohn_cephalopoda, eh that doesn't sound like fun, i guess it's time to setup a spam filter that learns what is spam23:32
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john_cephalopodaRomster: Thunderbird recognizes it :รพ23:39
john_cephalopodaBut I don't own the rest of my mail infrastructure, so I can't set anything up.23:39
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stenurThere is the OpenBSD spamd which has gazillions of addresses. On Linux there is rspamd i think. I do not do such. All i have is bogofilter here, and my postfix applies some sleeps before accepting mail.23:59

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