IRC Logs for #crux Sunday, 2019-12-29

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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: firefox: build patches for cbindgen, ccache check for clang version08:50
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: thunderbird: ccache check for clang version08:50
Romsterread that one already SiFuh  :D08:50
SiFuhme too :D09:06
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: sip5: initial commit, version 5.0.110:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: sip: initial commit, version 4.19.2010:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: setconf: initial commit, version 0.7.610:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: qutebrowser: initial commit, version 1.8.310:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-yaml: initial commit, version 5.1.210:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-vobject: initial commit, version
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-unidecode: initial commit, version 1.1.110:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-toml: initial commit, version 0.10.010:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-ruamel-yaml: initial commit, version 0.16.510:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-pyqtwebengine: initial commit, version 5.14.010:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-pyqt-builder: initial commit, version 1.1.010:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-pyqt5: initial commit, version 5.14.010:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-pypeg2: initial commit, version 2.15.210:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-opengl: initial commit, version 3.1.410:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-mutagen: initial commit, version 1.43.010:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-mpd2: initial commit, version 1.0.010:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-jinja: initial commit, version 2.10.310:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-discid: initial commit, version 1.2.010:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: maven: initial commit, version 3.6.310:43
TimB_SiFuh: happy new year :D10:45
TimB_did you read that xplane is offering vulkan support in private betas already?10:46
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SiFuhTimB_: nope, funny that, I was messing around with X-Plane 10 and 11 today trying to get my joystick to work11:25
SiFuhTimB_: Oh cool!11:26
TimB_SiFuh: what joystick are you using?11:27
TimB_the name is not telling enough, maybe, but check out sc-controller in my repo11:27
TimB_it works all kinds of input devices11:27
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SiFuhTimB_: oh it is detected in Linux, and dmesg shows it   and it was working before. Just decided to not be detected by X-Plane anymore.  I am planning to do a reboot though because I modified the kernel.11:38
TimB_it's good that it's detected but sc-controller will let you modify most if not all buttons and so on11:38
SiFuhX-Plane does that too :-P11:41
TimB_sure, whatever works best for you ;)11:42
SiFuhI am trying to find sc-controller11:42
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TimB_says steam controller, but does a lot more, check out the github page :)11:43
TimB_i am not 100% certain it works with joysticks, but might be worth a shot?11:44
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: kvantum: 0.13.0 -> 0.14.011:54
SiFuhI actually have a controller similar to the one in the picture11:55
SiFuhgot it for almost nothing so I didn't care if it worked or not,  but it does11:56
TimB_this would be your usual ps2 dual shock knock off?11:56
TimB_as long as it works, sure11:56
TimB_i got a steam controller11:56
SiFuhanyways sc-controller is whining about the lack of uinput kernel module  so I will compile it in11:56
TimB_and some arcade sticks working with playstation 2 boards as well :D11:57
SiFuhI use the controller for Colin Mcrae Rally 2005 and Supertuxkart  mostly11:57
SiFuhTimB_: wish I had a setup like this
TimB_yeah, i can believe that11:59
TimB_but i would take that without those monitors - VR please ;>11:59
SiFuhnot sure if I would like the VR googles in my eyes all the time12:00
TimB_but how nice: "i have been building a _simple_ home cockpit.." rofl12:00
TimB_SiFuh: you forget about that easily ;)12:00
SiFuhI am betting12:01
SiFuhTimB_: pilot that was on MH370 had a really cool hardware setup at home for X-Plane12:03
TimB_yeah i would love to have a single appartment just for that kind of stuff as well12:04
TimB_yeah, nice hotas12:05
TimB_elite dangerous is working in vr, i had friends tell me it's great12:05
SiFuhWhat I dislike about X-Plane 11 is when I am offline, it will only allow me to fly in demo mode because it can't connect to the server and verify my serial number12:08
SiFuhllvm takes so bleeding long to compile12:28
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: ncmpcpp: initial commit, version 0.8.212:32
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SiFuhwoohooooo  brb reboot this sucker13:05
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TimB_indeed hehe13:08
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SiFuhYou don't have required access to /dev/input13:10
SiFuhsc-controller is whining about it13:10
SiFuhbut the joystick, pad thing is back in X-Plane 1113:10
TimB_are you in the input group?13:14
SiFuhActually that was something I was meaning to bring up a week ago13:20
SiFuhI did a sysup and i was removed from all the groups and I hadn't run rejmerge or what ever it is called13:21
TimB_those files should be protected with /etc/pkgadd.conf13:21
SiFuhshould be13:22
TimB_Finally, rust built on my notebook :>13:22
SiFuh/usr/bin/crontab: Permission denied13:23
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SiFuhexplains why I haven't been getting any mail.. Anyways...  I added myself to user input and sc-controller is still complaining13:52
SiFuhit wants to chmod 666 /dev/uinput13:52
SiFuh /dev/uninput is  root:root anyways13:52
TimB_SiFuh: mh, not sure13:59
TimB_dbus maybe?14:00
TimB_ those are my groups, if that helps14:02
TimB_SiFuh: err, sorry, udev14:07
SiFuhTimB_: don't worry, I did the 666 and then tested it and it doesn't seem to support my controller14:11
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TimB_bummer :/14:13
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SiFuhno problems    I am not a serious gamer14:17
SiFuhI prefer an actual joystick that I use in Australia anyways. But this cheap junky thing is working in X-Plane after the reboot14:18
SiFuhOh wow14:18
TimB_i just don't have enough time for it. i haven't tried x-plane yet14:19
SiFuhSince when did they make it so that I can mount an ISO without needing to type loop ?14:20
TimB_not sure14:23
SiFuhThe 3 paragraphs under the picture of the fruit that says Nature isn't your friend.14:37
SiFuhMade me laugh too much14:37
TimB_mushroom ears? lol14:40
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-numpy: remove unneeded files15:54
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: qutebrowser: remove unneeded README15:54
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: sip5: remove unneeded README15:55
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-ruamel-yaml: delete these files from the footprint, they will be generated on demand15:55
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-pyqt5: delete obsolete files15:55
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-discid: fix wrong dependency15:55
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-babel: delete wrong dependency15:55
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: dbus-python3: initial commit, version 1.2.1415:55
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pedjaRussia's official Linux distribution, apparently18:06
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-ruamel-yaml: use setuptools instead of pip to build the package18:39
SiFuhpedja: I got both   the government and the public version18:41
SiFuhit uses fly-dm or fly-wm (which is KDE/QT based)18:42
SiFuhthe government version looks nicer, but it is just debian with some Russian crypto mods.18:42
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SiFuh3.7G Mar 14  2018 Astra-smolensk-amd64-Disk-1.iso18:44
pedjaSiFuh, I won't dare to ask how did you got that one :)18:46
SiFuhWant it?18:46
pedjanah, thanks :) what's the license for it, btw? gpl-like?18:49
SiFuhjust the gov stuff is an addition. Everything else is the same as any debian distro18:49
SiFuhthey have their own repositories. But still use pretty much everything else debian18:50
pedjaI am curious about their crypto stuff, it's certified up to top-secret by fsb, afaik18:51
SiFuhso sad, I also had the DPRK linux distro and the Chinese government.. But I do remember that the Chinese went Ubuntu and I definately didn't want that18:53
SiFuhRedstar I think DPRK was..18:53
SiFuhRed Star OS based on Redhat18:54
SiFuhIf anyone can give me an ftp server to dump the Astra Linux on, I will be glad to upload it18:54
joacimwish my government would get more into free software18:54
joacimseems there must friction with the US for such things to happen18:55
joacimmy government is very into 365 and azure these days.18:55
pedjaBaget RTOS looks interesting, too18:56
pedjawhat I can sort of make sense from a couple of sites, don't really speak Russian18:57
SiFuhRTOS are usually board specific18:57
SiFuhBaget is intended for software execution in a hard real-time embedded systems (firmware)18:58
SiFuhI tried to get my hands on LynxOS but they wouldn't sell to me as I didn't have a board specific to the OS.18:59
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pedjaquite a few familiar names as part of their virtualization solution19:22
pedjaqemu, kvm, libvirt, opennebula, ceph, virt-manager19:23
pedjajoacim, at this point, it's too expensive for them to switch, I guess19:24
pedjaeven if open software could provide all functionality users expect19:25
pedjaiirc, China made open source mandatory for the government by 2022, I think19:29
pedjait will be interesting to see how that plays out19:29
pedjawhat are MS strongholds in the enterprise? AD, Exchange, Office (Excel) ?19:32
joacimthey already made the big move to 36519:36
joacimthey could've done the move to free software instead19:36
joacimpedja: dont know about enterprise (sounds big), but for small-medium sized businesses, it is definitely Office/Microsoft 365.19:37
joacimexchange and sharepoint hosted by microsoft is huge with our customers. hardly any linux19:38
joacimand any mention of linux or any other free software alternatives are met with massive resistance. seen a lot of people try19:38
pedjathe cost of switching and retraining is just too massive, I guess19:39
joacimday before christmas eve, i had to explain to someone what a pc looks like19:40
pedjawell, they do come in all shapes and sizes :)19:41
joacimand that the specific pc i wanted them to find was on the floor in their reception19:41
SiFuhChinese Militiray was suppose to be 2020 but it is all already Opensource distros. Government is mostly Opensource Distros now, but the complete plan is 2022 as pedja says. I myself think that the move will be finished before 2020 has even ended. ;-)19:41
pedjaSiFuh, based on the little I know about Chinese government, I think you are probably correct :)19:42
pedjait's as scary as it is impressive, tbh19:43
SiFuhin 2004 we installed TV's (actually linux heads) in the trains. It eventually was moved to busses and taxis.  It the Tranportation Industry was on it, definately the government isn't far behind.19:44
SiFuhI still admire the great firewall of china ;-)19:44
SiFuhcountries like Australia and New Zealand have purchased a lesser version of it from the Chinese19:45
pedjaholly shit, prep book for win 2016 server cert is 1300 pages :)19:47
SiFuhImagine you are in China and you write a comment that the Chiense government doesn't like on a blog in the US. By the time it has passed through the firewall the blog shows everything but what you wrote. Yet, they never deleted what you wrote, they filtered it as it came in.19:47
pedjareality distortion field in a box19:47
SiFuhYou try to access a site that is banned. They don't tell you it is banned. It just connection timed out.19:48
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: mpdris2: fix a wrong dependency20:06
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: libzip: add missing dependency20:06
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-pyqtwebengine: remove unneeded files20:06
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: libdiscid: initial commit, version 0.6.220:06
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