IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2019-12-30

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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: sdl_pango: fix compile01:54
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: qt3: dropped01:54
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: x86info: fix source site down, fix build, move man pages to share01:54
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: xlockmore: 5.59 -> 5.61 updated as source was 40401:54
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: cbindgen: 0.12.0 -> 0.12.103:41
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: libfaketime: 0.9.1 -> 0.9.803:41
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: libtirpc-32: 1.1.4 -> 1.2.503:58
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: libcap-32: 2.28 -> 2.2903:58
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cruxbot[xorg.git/3.5]: libva: 2.5.0 -> 2.6.011:38
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: libva-32: 2.5.0 -> 2.6.011:41
TimB_anybody here that seriously uses wayland?12:04
TimB_I am trying a sway setup on my notebook and i like the snappiness it brings to that old mobile chipset12:04
TimB_not completly ready for everything, but if it just involves some light weight tasks this might be just enough already..12:05
Romsteri was actually just thinking of wayland12:06
Romsterthink there is a way to run old apps on X while wayland is running.12:07
RomsterTimB_, what is involved to run wayland? i got a composite manager running12:07
TimB_xwayland is what you are thinking about12:08
TimB_it works, kinda12:08
TimB_for sway you don't need much12:08
Romsteri just run tint2 and pekwm12:08
TimB_wayland, wayland-protocols iirc, sway.. maybe some additions to sway to set a background12:08
TimB_it helps if you already use a lot of cli applications i guess :D12:08
Romsterand picom for the shading12:09
TimB_haven't tried picom with it12:09
Romsterxsetroot -solid gray & :P then i use feh --bg-scale --no-xinerama ~/.backgrounds/bg &12:09
TimB_i3status-rust works fine12:10
TimB_i have some newer ports for all of that in my overlay romster, if you wanna take a look12:10
Romsterah i'll poke at them.12:10
Romsteri still haven't got done with java12:11
Romsterit's such a beast12:11
TimB_sure, i haven't looked into any further java right now either12:11
TimB_i had everything else to look at as well, i think now i am done with that too12:11
Romsterbad enough llvm clang rust and other things.12:11
TimB_i still want to set up an icecast server to let the nas handle the mpd stream for my local net12:12
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: glib-32: 2.62.3 -> 2.62.412:13
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: glib: 2.62.3 -> 2.62.412:13
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: python3-pyparsing: 2.4.5 -> 2.4.612:13
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: python-pyparsing: 2.4.5 -> 2.4.612:13
Romsterthat would be interesting.12:19
Romsterbut why when samba or nfs?12:19
Romsterif you are gonna go that far dlna for movies too?12:19
TimB_no actually i just want to be able to remove mpd from the other systems12:21
TimB_mpd clients can connect to an remote mpd session shared via icecast12:21
TimB_for the rest i use nfs and watch the stuff via kodi12:22
Romsterso you just run clients on each box12:22
Romstersounds like a plan12:22
TimB_if it works :D12:22
Romsterdoes icecast transcode or send native?12:22
Romsteri got a mixture of flac and mp312:23
TimB_oh, i just see icecast is not needed anymore since mpd has it's own builtin http mini server12:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: gsl: 2.1 -> 2.612:23
TimB_http server just works, let's see if i get that into ncmpcpp12:27
Romsterack gsl update needs inkscape rebuild12:28
Romstergood luck12:29
TimB_ty :D12:30
Romsterhmm what else can i poke a stick at12:30
TimB_i don't get it to blast sound.. but i don't have time for it right now anyway12:42
TimB_but seems to be a good solution. mpd else runs as a service in the background, so why put that on every client to access the same db, right?12:43
pedjaanyone played with ?12:55
TimB_pedja: not me13:00
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: gtk3: 3.24.12 -> 3.24.1313:00
pedjaI am curious how beefy freenas box has to be for it to run properly13:05
pedjasince it's java :)13:06
TimB_pedja: i tried a steam cache docker container the other day on that poor amd apu and it basically dies. the cache delivers less (speed-wise) than a regular download for me :P13:11
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TimB_not really compareable, but i would suppose it will need something to work with13:12
beli3verHello guys13:13
TimB_g2g, laters13:26
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: libedit: 20191025_3.1 -> 20191211_3.113:52
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: hunspell-en: 2017.01.22 -> 2019.10.0613:52
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: libconfuse: 3.2.1 -> 3.2.213:56
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.5]: libepoxy: 1.5.3 -> 1.5.414:01
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: libestr: 0.1.10 -> 0.1.1114:05
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: libev: 4.27 -> 4.3114:10
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: libebml: 1.3.9 -> 1.3.1014:10
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: libgsasl: 1.8.0 -> 1.8.114:10
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ckrzenHowdy from Tulsa. OK16:53
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ckrzenI'm configuring my kernel during install of "CRUX 3.5" and I'm wondering if anyone has an opinion on the use of X86_MCE(mcelog)? Is it helpful to compile in and then install the daemon(mcelog or rasdaemon) for basic desktop/workstation on a laptop(ThinkPad X240/T450)?16:56
jaegerckrzen: Tulsa, really? That makes 2 of us16:58
jaegerI personally have never used MCE features on a desktop or otherwise so I can't contribute much there16:59
ckrzenHey @jaeger, I remember seeing that you were here, in T-town, last(first) time I tried CRUX, back in 2006 or so!16:59
jaegerah, nice. Been a while, then :)17:00
ckrzenI've spent the last decade or so boning up on my Linux skills with Slackware, Fedora, Ubuntu and I'm BACK!17:00
ckrzenI was out in Cali, back then.17:01
ckrzenmoved back to Tulsa in 2014.17:01
ckrzenI would like to buy ya a beer or coffee, etc. if you ever up for it!17:01
jaegerWhat brought you back?17:02
jaegerSure, I'd be game sometime17:02
ckrzens/your/you're ... sigh17:02
ckrzenSan Fran got too expansive, crowded and I was ready for a change. I grew up here and left in 1989.17:02
jaegerI can understand that. I've visited SF a few times but don't think I'd do well living there.17:03
ckrzenThought Portland(Beaverton), OR area would be cool, but ultimately came back here in via Fayetteville, AR(2007), Poteau/Talihina, OK(2012).17:04
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ckrzenTulsa has really grown and I can't believe stuff like what's happened with Gathering Place, Blue Dome, Arts District, etc.17:05
jaegerYeah, definitely a lot different now than a decade ago.17:06
ckrzenMany of us using CRUX in the area?17:07
jaegerNot that I know of around here, no17:08
ckrzenYou've been with the project a looong time, eh?17:08
jaegerThink I started using CRUX in early 2002... wasn't contributing quite that early17:09
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ckrzennice. I'm glad to see it still going and it really appeals to me to start using again. I haven't compiled my own kernel in about 10-years and boy have they added/changed some stuff!17:12
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ckrzenhrmmm...wonder why the matrix appserv kicked me for being here, idle, for 30+days? I've only been here under an hour.17:25
jaegermaybe ntp isn't running, heh17:26
jaegerman, I love ansible. Updating small things on servers all over the world and it's so easy17:28
ckrzenACTION sent a long message:  < >17:33
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ckrzenjaeger: may I PM you my contact info to meet up when able for that beer/coffee/etc.?18:31
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pedjaACTION is wondering why are the standards so damn expensive18:45
pedja500 euros for bs8888:2020 pdf18:45
pedjaiso standards aren't much better, either18:47
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stenurYeah, incredible expensive all that stuff. I have pdf_iso32000.pdf for free; very old.19:34
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pedjaand it references a bunch of other, also expensive, standards, for extra joy :)19:47
pedja"for details, see iso foo 11000", or similar19:48
stenurMost come via Switzerland, maybe that is why ^_^19:51
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