IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2020-01-16

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duskmournhow do I fox a signature mismatch error?00:34
duskmournfix*00:34
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weednixRomster: my problem with rust was not space :) https://tribu.semdestino.org/forum/thread.php?path=Ports/Opt/&file=rust-1-40-0-101:20
weednixtomorrow or then, will search how to fix it for sccache01:21
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duskmournfinally got X working, but my second monitor isn't detected by it01:59
duskmournunsure what the issue could be, I should have my graphics drivers installed01:59
weednixduskmourn: cool, I just had a problem on a older computer, tomorrow will research https://tribu.semdestino.org/forum/thread.php?path=General/&file=xorg-freezes02:01
weednixbut I'm happy, rust built and firefox is building... this means my packages are not broken, was just port or building configuration problem02:02
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daftaupedamn, it's actually not possible to use root=UUID=xxx without using an initramfs/initrd :/ but one can use root=PARTUUID= instead, took me way to long to discover that, now I've successfully installed crux :)08:47
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: scite: update to 4.3.009:15
daftaupewho is in charge of crux.nu mirror ?10:00
pedjaadding a new one to the list?10:16
pedjadaftaupe, checked https://crux.nu/Main/Download ?10:18
daftaupehmm let me explain10:19
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daftaupeI noticed that there's this french mirror : https://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/crux/, but they don't have the https://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/crux/core/3.5/REPO file which would make the http mirror usable through .httpup file10:20
daftaupethat seems to be because it's filtered out via the rsync module config : https://crux.nu/Wiki/SettingUpAnRsyncRepo10:20
daftaupeI asked the maintainer, they sync through rsync and then they don't get that file10:20
daftaupewhich makes the http mirror useless10:20
TimB_official port repos use rsync, check /etc/ports/core.rsync opt.rsync contrib.rsync compat32.rsync10:21
daftaupeI can't use rsync where I have my machine (company fw)10:22
TimB_bummer, i have no idea if there is any httpup mirror10:22
daftaupewell there's the crux.nu one10:22
daftaupebut the ircam one would work if the rsync module on crux.nu would allow rsync to get the REPO file10:22
ryuodaftaupe: we can download the file set for you as a temporary workaround. is that acceptable?10:23
TimB_i believe mirrors are managed by teK_10:23
daftaupethanks ryuo, I got it working using crux.nu mirror, but I would prefer using a french mirror as I'm in France10:24
ryuoi see.10:24
daftaupeit's just I don't see the point putting http mirrors on the download page if that REPO file is not available (if I'm not mistaken ports can't use regular http, just httpup right ?)10:25
ryuoTimB_: it's weird. i checked the repo page. rsync is mostly used just by crux.nu10:26
ryuoeverything else is httpup10:27
TimB_true10:27
TimB_well, most is on httpup10:27
TimB_jaegers repo uses rsync10:27
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Romsterweednix, odd i didn't get that issue with sccache and on a 8 or so year old pc.11:02
daftauperyuo, which page ?11:06
ryuodaftaupe: https://crux.nu/portdb/11:06
daftaupeah, these are for additionnal ports right ?11:07
ryuowell it's a complete listing of known ports.11:08
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daftaupeI see but for example core opt and xorg are available on other mirrors, not only on crux.ru12:38
daftaupe.nu12:38
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daftaupeare there ports one has to build using clang and ports one has to build with gcc ?14:21
daftaupewhen trying to compile firefox it seems it's trying to find clang14:21
TimB_prt-get depends firefox14:22
daftaupeshouldn't dependencies get installed when I prt-get install firefox ?14:23
TimB_prt-get depinstall firefox14:23
TimB_err14:23
TimB_depinst14:24
daftaupeahaa, that's the trick I was missing14:24
TimB_it will also build rust, so if you don't have either clang nor rust around yet, this will take some time14:26
TimB_depending on your system, of course14:26
daftaupeah, so that's why there's the firefox-bin I guess :)14:27
TimB_i guess it was introduced with "fuck rust", probably ;)14:28
daftaupehmm14:28
weednix:D14:35
weednixMorning14:35
weednixRomster: asap I try with prt-get, then I will try to put that timeout thing14:35
weednixfirefox built14:36
weednixafk14:44
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daftaupedamn, I didn't really take the time to compile my own kernel before installing crux, but there are so many config options ...16:08
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duskmournhttp://dpaste.com/22F5FCD18:37
duskmourncurrently have 2 monitors setup and xrandr only detects the one, pretty certain I have my graphics drivers installed properly18:37
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duskmournhttp://dpaste.com/3ZY0SCR19:03
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: dbus-python: updated to 1.2.16. Switched to python320:23
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: nss: updated to 3.49.120:23
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duskmourncan anyone help me figure out why the amdgpu driver isn't loading? Here's my Xorg log https://files.catbox.moe/zr7s64.old20:51
jaegerDo you have the proper firmware loading? check 'dmesg | grep firmware'20:54
duskmournhttp://dpaste.com/24Z29GQ20:56
duskmournthat's a no20:56
jaegerprobably everything you need is in opt/linux-firmware20:57
duskmournI have it installed already20:58
jaegerhave you rebooted since then? Also, install xorg-xf86-video-amdgpu20:59
duskmournyeah I've rebooted, I also have the xorg driver installed21:00
jaegerhrmm, not sure. It works well for me.21:01
duskmournmight have something to do with the fact I reinstalled linux-firmware when I updated my system?21:01
jaegerI doubt it... linux-firmware doesn't do anything special or unusual21:02
duskmournright21:02
jaegeroh. is amdgpu built into the kernel <*> or module <M>?21:04
duskmourngood question21:04
duskmournI think I built it in21:05
duskmournis that a problem?21:06
jaegerThat's probably the issue21:06
duskmournah21:06
jaegerSince it needs to load firmware21:06
duskmournright21:06
jaegerYou can either change it to module or you can build the needed firmware into the kernel21:06
jaegerThe first option is the easier one21:07
duskmournso just rebuild my kernel with it as a module?21:07
duskmourneasy enough21:07
duskmournalso why is Crux on such an old kernel still?21:09
duskmourn4.19.4821:09
ryuocrux always releases with an LTS kernel.21:10
ryuoyou're not forced to stick with that.21:10
ryuo4.19 isn't that old...21:11
jaeger^ exactly, it's LTS. switch to a different version if you like21:12
duskmournah'21:12
duskmournyeah, there's an unofficial port for the latest stable kernel I saw21:12
pedjaACTION runs 4.12.14 :)21:14
pedjanot on Crux, thou21:14
jaegeryou still could, theoretically, or as far back as 4.9.x21:16
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duskmournhttps://files.catbox.moe/vs88d6.jpg22:08
duskmournafter recompiling my kernel with amdgpu as a module I get this when I try to startx22:08
duskmournalways something lol22:08
stenurprt-get fsearch swrast_dri.so22:10
pedjathat's mesa, right?22:10
jaegerwell, at least one thing sticks out there... the missing libLLVM-8.so is from an older llvm version, so it's probably that things got updated as part of sysup and now xorg bits need to be rebuilt22:10
jaegerspecifically mesa3d, xorg-server, and the xorg input/video drivers22:11
jaegersomething like: prt-get update -fr mesa3d xorg-server $(prt-get listinst | egrep 'xorg-xf86-(input|video)')22:11
duskmournalright22:12
jaegerone of the "fun" bits of source-based distributions22:12
duskmournOh I know how it is, I used to use an obscure source based distro22:13
pedjanah, libjpeg/png abi change requiring rebuilding ALL THE THINGS is 'fun' :)22:13
pedjathis is merely a nuisance22:14
jaegerduskmourn: as a side note, an easy way to pastebin things from your console rather than taking a photo:  curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io < /var/log/Xorg.0.log22:18
jaegeror use wgetpaste22:18
duskmournalright, I know there's a way to do that, I just always forget about it or what programs I'd need to use for it22:19
jaegerfair enough22:19
pedjawhy isn't there a cruxpaste.crux.nu ? most of the lesser distributions have their own :) ?22:22
pedjaone more thing to babysit for abuse, I guess22:22
duskmourn"stop using our paste service you filthy Arch users!"22:24
pedjawth is CSD? I see some of the xfce-4.15 parts getting support for it22:24
pedjaah, 'client side decorations', whatever that is22:25
ryuopedja: client side decorations.22:25
ryuopedja: the most annoying feature to ever grace gtk+3.22:25
pedjacourtesy of gnome devs, I presume?22:25
ryuopedja: probably? it integrates client window widgets with the titlebar.22:26
ryuothere's only one real way to disable it.22:26
pedjause KDE?22:26
ryuoa certain library called gtk3-nocsd22:26
ryuoNo.22:26
ryuoif you preload it22:26
ryuoit effectively stops them cold.22:26
ryuohttps://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd22:27
pedjathat's a bit...hacky22:27
ryuowhat isn't?22:27
pedjaheh22:27
pedjawell, not too worried, xfce-4.16 with csd support will be released somewhere ~2025, so22:29
duskmournI wonder how hard it would be to write ports for Cinnamon, I don't think it's dependant on systemd like gnome 322:36
pedjagnome3 requires logind, and there is elogind as a possible replacement, afaik22:37
pedjano idea about cinnamon22:38
jaegerI built cinnamon ports years ago, it wasn't too tough at the time22:40
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pedjainteresting, I see javascript is one of the dependencies.22:55
pedjaso they inherited that when they forked gnome3, I guess22:56
duskmournyeah pretty sure some parts are in written in JavaScript, not sure22:56
ryuopanel stuff is JS for sure.22:57
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pedjawhat's the reasoning there? lots of people know it, so no shortage of possible developers?23:01
pedjaawww "windows 7 is EOL'd, surely those people will migrate to Linux?'23:04
pedjamy guess? nope23:05
stenurAustrian derstandard.at goes that way too. today they report windows 7 produces a daily pop-up to state eosupport.23:05
pedjaCould Linux be a capable facebook box instead of win7? sure. Will people switch? Unlikely.23:11
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stenura month or so ago i asked on LUGA ML whether derstandard.at will "beat through" Linux on the desktop in a solo run; shortly thereafter they removed all articles; but started again now with real e-o-s.23:19
stenurother than that i fully agree. it is a pity though, we had Linux in bureaucracy, for example in Munich, even though M$ is there. But all gone. Vienna much earlier the same.23:24
stenurFunnily there is still the Univention server which essentially comes from German Bureaucracy (hi Bremen), still with free services. Used worldwide. Sigh.23:25
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brian|lfshey jaeger anyway to contact tsaop all he has on his ports is a fake email address23:57

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