IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2020-01-20

fysugh the more i get comfortable and happy with my openbox setup, the more i dread going back to my mac at work :\00:25
ryuofys: funny. people usually says the reverse.00:47
fysWhy would anyone dread using Linux?00:50
fysOr enjoy a Mac?00:51
jaegerof course both are subjective00:52
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fysWell, yes. I don't mean to start anything.01:02
fysI just really dislike macos01:02
jaegerthat's fine, just answering your "why would anyone" question :)01:04
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fysMy co-worker is an Apple fanatic.01:05
jaegerI use one for work but I don't have any particularly strong feelings about it. Not my favorite but it does the job01:12
fysI do better work when I'm comfortable with my environment.01:13
fysAnd I don't feel that with a Mac.01:13
jaegerI'm comfortable enough to work with it01:13
fysI'm not. The lack of customization really hinders my groove.01:13
ryuohey! we found the ideal user for KDE.01:14
jaegerI don't mind that since it's a work system... got plenty of linux around to customize :)01:14
fysryuo: I'm very happy with Openbox.01:16
ryuosomeone that thinks outside the box.01:16
fysI like Linux a lot as an OS because I am using relatively the exact same setup as I had almost 15 years ago.01:24
fysI hate change.01:25
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: youtube-dl: 2020.01.01 -> 2020.01.1508:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: partclone: 0.3.12 -> 0.3.1308:01
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: python-setuptools: 45.0.0 -> 45.1.008:07
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: python3-setuptools: 45.0.0 -> 45.1.008:07
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-websocket-client: 0.56.0 -> 0.57.008:20
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-iso3166: 1.0 -> 1.0.108:20
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-asn1crypto: 1.2.0 -> 1.3.008:20
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: mercurial: 5.2 -> 5.2.208:20
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: orc: disable gtk-doc10:52
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: orc-32: disable gtk-doc10:54
SiFuhDang nab it, we's a gonna be makin' a moonshine t'night11:07
TimB_SiFuh: you should work out and not nib on that moonshine too much ;)11:09
TimB_we don't want your heart to fail prematurely on us, right?11:09
SiFuhhave been, did an overkill today, going to be sore tomorrow.11:09
SiFuhTimB_: I actually don't drink it, I sell it.  The beer I drink11:10
SiFuhThe fermenter stopped bubbling today, so got to run the still tonight.11:10
SiFuhDude, I cannot believe how unfit I am. So yeah, started today, do another round on Wednesday and again Friday. Then after a month of that as a warm up, get back into something real.11:12
TimB_SiFuh: sounds like a good plan11:12
TimB_i actually work out with an dvd program, so to say :D only body weight excercises11:12
SiFuhHaha, I am going back to Martial Arts11:13
TimB_i don't have much "toys" like kettlebells or anything, so this suits me best as you just need a mat and a place to go apeshit crazy11:13
SiFuhDon't know if my ass is going to handle the chafing :-P11:13
TimB_i happy my neighbour doesn't care, it's a lot of jumping involved11:13
SiFuhOnly toys I ever used was  mat, floor, wall, trees and a belt11:13
SiFuhUnfortunately the nearest tree is my Chilli tree and it just watched the movie "The day of the Triffids"11:14
SiFuhSeriously leaning towards the TV last night11:15
cruxbot[core.git/3.5]: sysklogd: update to 2.1.111:31
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: mc: update to 4.8.2411:49
cruxbot[core.git/3.5]: bison: update to 3.5.111:50
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pedjaI wonder how close Ampere(3080/3070) gpus will be to 2000$12:12
pedja10/20 Gb vram12:12
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: xtables-addons: 2.9 -> 3.7; corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: xplanet: corrected mandir; fixed build15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: x86info: corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: deleted unmaintained port15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: [notify] vlc: dropped qt4 as a dependency, added qt5; corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: vala: 0.36.20 -> 0.46.5; corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: deleted unmaintained port15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: urlview: corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: uptimed: 0.4.0 -> 0.4.2; corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: thttpd: corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: thc-hydra: 8.9.1 -> 9.0; corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: tftp-hpa: corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: [notifiy] sslscan: 1.11.10 -> 1.11.13; new dependency: openssl1; corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: sntop: corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: [notify] scribus: 1.4.8 -> 1.5.5; new dependencies (boost, harfbuzz-icu, hunspell, qt5); removed qt4 as a dependency; corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: preload: corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: pptp: 1.9.0 -> 1.10.0; corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: pidentd: deleted unmaintained port15:42
TimB_good bye cruxbot :>15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: gsm: corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: gob: add missing dependency, corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: fortune: corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: fluxbox: corrected mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: figlet: fix mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: fgetty: fix mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: dsniff: fix build, correct mandir15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: dietlibc: 0.33 -> 0.3415:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: dahdi and dahdi-tools: dropped unmaintained ports15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: cvsps: dropped unmaintained port15:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: dropped unmaintained ports15:42
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: flash-player-plugin: update to
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: vkquake: 1.02.1 -> 1.04.116:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: torsocks: deleted unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: tor: deleted unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: stellarium: deleted unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: sdl2_mixer: deleted unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: sdl2_image: deleted unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: qbittorrent: deleted unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: p5-berkeleydb: deleted unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: ncpamixer: deleted unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: logrotate: deleted unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: fbreader: deleted unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: libunibreak: deleted unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: iperf3: drop unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: dreamchess: drop unmaintained port16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: crawl{,-tiles}: drop unmaintained ports16:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: vala: fix build16:15
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: redis-py3: fix dependencies16:23
SiFuhTimB_: only got 3 Litres reduced to 40% out of a 25 Litre mash.16:26
TimB_is that good?16:27
TimB_will it make people blind?16:27
SiFuhabout to try16:29
SiFuhI had no methanol come out first. I tested with a lighter to be sure. It burned clear with a light blue tinge. So I dumped the first 250ml anyways into a bottle and labelled it heads.16:30
TimB_i have no idea about the process. i was never good at chemistry16:31
SiFuhSecond part is good16:32
SiFuhlast part is crap.16:32
TimB_well then, cheers ;)16:36
SiFuhI was trying to make Vietnamese Bia Hoi on the 11th  it failed. So I dumped 6KG of syrup in it, on the 17th  the will also end up as moonshine16:38
SiFuhso in 6 days it should be read to distill16:38
TimB_don't blow yourself up :D16:39
SiFuhNot using a thumper16:40
TimB_even though my last name suggests that i know about that stuff - i don't :D16:42
SiFuhImagine using a pressure cooker. There is a saftery release valve and a weight. When using a standard still the pressure just shoots out your drip pipe.16:42
SiFuhif you use a thumper you are creating pressure then, it could potentially blow if you have no safety release16:43
SiFuhthumper works like a bong.16:44
SiFuhha found one16:47
SiFuhthis can cause a pressure build up that leads to an explosion16:47
SiFuhif not carefully managed16:47
TimB_ok, get it16:48
SiFuhMy Chilli tree is watching episode 216:56
SiFuh"The Day of the Triffids" Part 216:57
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TimB_is this german?17:42
cruxbot[core.git/3.5]: bin86: fix source URL17:43
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SiFuhTimB_: not sure... but the language is in English17:55
SiFuhand it is a British 2 part movie17:55
SiFuhBasic story is there is a plant that eats meat. The earth has a green meteor shower and most of the people become blind because of it. Then the trees (that can move) go hunting people. There is more to it as you have people fighting for power, but that is the shortest17:56
TimB_lol, that sounds like somethign haha17:57
SiFuhI saw the original  in black and white17:57
SiFuhthe one my Chilli tree is watching is the modern British version17:57
pedjathe book was inspiration for 28 Days Later, apparently17:59
SiFuhit is interesting because the trees are in the background doing their human munching business but the series (original and the new two part movie) focus mostly on the survival of the human race and what to do with these blind people.17:59
SiFuhWhen I was a kid and saw it, holy crap  I think it was like the original Alien movie. You hardley saw the beast eating people. As a matter of fact my mother shouted to me and said 'Quick, you can see the banana tree' hahaha18:00
SiFuhin The latest two part movie they look like giant alovoera plants18:01
SiFuhaloe vera18:01
SiFuhHah English version18:21
TimB_SiFuh: my containers ccache O:)18:31
TimB_will need to clean it out soon, it served me well though18:31
SiFuhhaha I cleaned mine18:44
TimB_finally, if all goes well, this is the last build command run for today (outside the container)18:51
SiFuhbrb going to carry a concrete table downstairs that ways as much as a buffalo without waking the evil woman18:52
SiFuhif i don't return, i have probably been crushed to death18:53
SiFuhby the table   not her18:53
TimB_good luck :D18:54
SiFuhalmost went through the glass banister19:00
SiFuhhaha  but success!19:00
SiFuhI actually want industrial shelving so I can add more fermenters to the mix19:02
SiFuhbut for the moment, while she sleeps, I will jsut keep pinching the tables and chairs that are too heavy for her to carry, till she decides that she will allow industrial shelves ;-)19:03
SiFuhor she buys new furniture or learns to sit on the floor when eating ;-)19:04
SiFuhfrinnst: S10E04 was just cool till the end and it narrowed it down19:35
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: [notify] libreoffice: ->; new dependency: libqrcodegen19:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: libqrcodegen: initial commit, version 1.5.019:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: qownnotes: 19.12.15 -> 20.1.1119:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: [notify] suitesparse: new dependency: lapack19:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: openblas: fix to coexist with openblas19:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: lapack: fix to coexist with openblas19:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: [notify] python3-numpy: new dependency: lapack19:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: openblas: reworked to coexist with contrib/lapack19:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: mono: ->
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: lapack: initial commit, version 3.9.019:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: dbus-python3: 1.2.14 -> 1.2.1619:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: [notify] coin-or-coinutils: new dependency: lapack19:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: lapack: initial commit, version 3.9.019:45
SiFuhwhat a mess19:47
TimB_yeah, introducing lapack was kind of a mess19:48
pedjadoesn't openblas provide lapack too?19:59
pedjaso why the separate port for it?20:00
TimB_but all major distros favor lapack over openblas it seems20:00
TimB_i just use lapack heards from lapack, all else from openblas. seems like a compromise20:00
pedja[citation needed] for that one :)20:01
TimB_the differences are above me pedja :) you know that20:01
TimB_citation? there is no discussion about it, not that i know of20:01
pedjaafaik, lapack is the reference (a.k.a slow version), and atlas and openblas are optimized versions20:02
pedjanvidia and amd have their versions too, for cpu and cuda20:02
TimB_is there anything speaking against my solution?20:04
pedjanope :)20:04
pedjayou are the maintainer of all that, your call20:05
TimB_i still fail to compile r-3.6.220:05
TimB_3.6.1 works as is in contrib.. 3.6.2 fails for something i haven't figured out yet20:07
pedjawhat's the error?20:10
TimB_i can post a log in a bit20:11
pedjaI've been playing with pandas. have to be careful how big the dataset I try to import is, thou :)20:14
TimB_hehe, i can imagine :D20:14
TimB_ lapack, openblas, both, it doesn't make a difference. same output20:15
dbrookenot wishing to rain on your parade TimB_ but I get a 404 for the lapack download ERROR: Downloading '' failed.20:37
TimB_let me check20:37
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: lapack: update source20:38
TimB_dbrooke: ^20:38
dbrookenow building, thanks20:39
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joacimbug report: i had no failed builds today. something must be wrong.23:42
brian|lfsjaeger, tsapop did get back to me but I was out of town he asked me for a long of the failed build23:43
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