IRC Logs for #crux Wednesday, 2020-02-05

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uplimeno, at least nothing standard00:05
uplimeyou'd have to store it in a variable00:05
TimB_bummer, but thanks00:06
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: jq: never use bundled oniguruma, fixes FS#178701:02
teK_when did auto-closing bugs break? -.-01:02
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TimB_^ ty01:05
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: qemu: switch to python301:18
teK_frinnst: ------------------------^01:18
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: qemu-agent: switch to python301:21
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frinnstteK_: <308:11
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: libtasn1: 4.14 -> 4.16.008:28
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: libtasn1-32: 4.14 -> 4.16.008:29
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: openal-32: 1.20.0 -> 1.20.108:35
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: openal: 1.20.0 -> 1.20.108:35
frinnsthow the fuck can you pay your bills as a web dev and not understand the concept of vhosts?08:54 :P ?08:55
frinnsthis line of work is so fucking depressing08:55
Romsterwhy are you working with morons08:55
frinnstI dont. my customers hire morons08:55
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: inkscape: fix footprint08:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: potrace: 1.15 -> 1.1608:56
Romstercan't do much about that.08:58
uplimefrinnst: thats a backend detail! not a webdev problem!09:01
uplimewhy should they care about things like ram, or file permissions, or sockets, or tls, or diskspace09:02
Romsterwebdev what's resources09:04
Romstermind if i bump nspr frinnst or you got it queued for later?09:10
frinnstnope. im behind on my ck4up09:11
frinnstgo ahead09:11
uplimei used to work with a guy who was a web dev and was one day tasked with writing a web socket handler. he could not for the life of him figure out why it caused the server to keep running out of file descriptors. he didn't even really open that many files09:13
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: protobuf: 3.11.2 -> 3.11.309:13
uplimeapparently he had never heard that sockets are files too09:13
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: portaudio: 19_20140130 -> 19.6.009:13
Romsterat least linux doesn't bork on to many half opened tcp sockets unlike windows09:14
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: nspr: 4.24 -> 4.2509:15
uplimethis was freebsd09:15
uplimeand very out of date freebsd at that :(09:15
uplimei dont remember exactly what it did, but it certianly wasn't happy09:15
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Romsterjust died?10:09
Romster-_- guess i'll need to do something else for a while.10:13
Romsterok it's back strange...10:15
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: python3-six: fix for python3-pyqt510:16
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: python-xlib: prune unmaintained port10:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: pypanel: prune unmaintained port10:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: firefox-bin: 72.0.1 -> 72.0.210:39
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: wine: 5.0 -> 5.113:02
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frinnst yees?14:35
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TimB_sure :>14:40
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: qtkeychain: 0.9.1 -> 0.10.015:44
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: qemu: fixed footprint16:37
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msiismI'm usually using vlock for screen locking. Now, I was already aware that, as it seems, upstream development is dead. I've found one port for vlock on the CRUX website, but the source URL in the Pkgfile points to a vanished site.21:04
msiismSo, is there a useful alternative to vlock?21:05
teK_source file might be still at  I use xscreensave (hello, 80ies)21:08
stenurslock there is.21:10
msiismteK_: Hm..., doesn't look like it's there. Is XScreensave able to look all virtual consoles at once? Because, with a fully equipped vlock, you just type 'vlock -a' to lock all of them – even from within an X session, if you like.21:10
msiismstenur: slock is for extremists. it doesn't even support umlauts. :) I know that because I am using it sometimes.21:11
msiisms/look/lock (in the above)21:12
stenurAh; never tried that; it locks the screen and wants a password.. What i did not like is that it does not turn off the display21:12
stenurI do not need it anyway, only have a laptop now.21:13
msiismThe thing is that I'm usually working with two accounts in parallel, switching back and forth with Ctrl+Alt+F[n]. And I'm not always running X sessions. So, I need a toool to just lock down all VTs for me when I lock the screen.21:15
stenurYeah, i understand. I always had a normal console on tty1  so this i21:16
stenurAhem. Was not covered i wanted to say. Yes, that is difficult, especially for non-root. I do not know.21:17
stenurOr just block vtswitch, of course.21:17
stenurWrite a script which reprograms the keys as long as thing is running.21:18
msiismI was even thinking: register, salvage the last known verison of the source, and put it up on some webspace, maybe using some rcs.21:18
msiismSomeone would have to do the last part because I have no clue about networking and server administration. But then, maybe the FSF's Svannah service could just be used.21:20
stenurSure. Things tend to rot, though. I can only speak for myself here :(21:20
stenurBut say, what is missing: write a shell script which uses xmodmap to disable vt switching, call slock, and when that comes back, just reenable vt switching, best in an EXIT trap.21:21
msiismI should prbably inform the maintainer of the port that the site the source is pulled from in the Pkgfile has vanished.21:21
stenurAnd have some INT HUP TERM QUIT traps which simply "exit 1"21:21
msiismstenur: Hm..., but then, slock does require X, doesn't it?21:21
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