IRC Logs for #crux Tuesday, 2020-03-03

SiFuhINTEL SSDSCKKW01 and TEAM TM8PS7001T00:03
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stenurjaeger: "slower with f2fs" than what? Benchmarks look impressive. My BTRFS usage for /usr/obj, /usr/ports, /usr/src/, /var/tmp/, .. is likely silly; at least they are all subvol= mounts of one big covers-all partition, and not included in snapshots. This NVME things scrubs at 1.27 GB/sec, this is ever so amazing. But i should rebuild the machine, base it upon cryptsetup; then add some non-BTRFS partitions00:41
stenurfor specific tasks.00:41
stenurBtw., NetBSD just imported pam-u2f and libfido2 for OpenSSH i presume. They have not imported anything else?  Was it you frinnst who stopped searching around?00:42
stenurHm, i think that was on -devel indeed.00:42
stenurThey only needed libcbor for libfido2, but CBOR is cool and will find more usage for sure. Not looked yet, but cannot be a large thing.00:44
SiFuhTiming cached reads:   24736 MB in  1.99 seconds = 12444.08 MB/sec  Timing buffered disk reads: 512 MB in  1.16 seconds = 440.03 MB/sec00:45
stenurHmm, buffer here buffer there buffer everywhere00:46
stenurLast Saturday my one backup USB stick was 99% full, 1.7GB "free" in the end after BTRFS snapshots were imported. Had to drop MP4 snapshots. Worked fine, except that this stick is slow like hell.00:48
SiFuhI used btrfs once00:50
stenurBut always slow, not only then. I have no idea of file systems. :(00:50
SiFuhended up in #btrfs and the dudes had to write a patch to fix what broke on my system00:50
stenur;)00:51
SiFuhI was impressed though at how well they figured out what was wrong and patched the progam00:51
stenurWorks painless. Including subvol= boots of refind. Now EFI_STUB boot via efibootmgr though.00:52
SiFuhI was writing a new UUID or something and the power went out00:53
SiFuhand btrfs tools refused to touch it00:53
stenurI'm too tired to decide whether that was good or not :)00:54
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jaegerslower than ext4. Like I said, just a feeling, haven't done any real tests. Maybe I'll do some when I have time to reinstall or recreate filesystems00:57
joacimmost of my trust is in ext4 tbh00:58
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joacimat least with filesystems that ship with linux00:58
stenurI looked at the Phoronix benchmarks Google found for me.  Looks really impressive.  Would be interesting to know what happens if disk is near full and reclaiming data is necessary to continue at all.  I think then things get really interesting.01:00
stenurLike Ts'o said on TUHS: everybody can design a file system pretty quick, but turning this to a major enterprise file system, is a long and hard road.01:01
stenur(More or less)01:01
stenurI uses only FFSv2 and ext2/3/4 for decades. Never had any problems.01:02
stenurBut snapshots are really, really great. And putting it all one one partition, with subvols with slightly different settings (like noatime) is cool.01:03
stenurThink one could do lots of that with bind mounts and/or nullfs, however. The Linux world is full of magic there. Bind mounts are tremendous.01:03
SiFuhMy two SSD's have f2fs. That is including my /  The two hard disks are using xfs and the encrypted drive is ext401:05
stenurBtw.: my zstd is not multithreaded. Does "zstd -T0 -19" scale to your CPUs?01:10
stenurGood night (YAWN). Rainy forest in the night, i am coming.01:15
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SiFuhjoacim: my first hard drive was not 1MB. It actually was a 10 MB Seagate ST-41205:52
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ryuoSiFuh: the days when 640K was enough for anyone.06:06
SiFuhmine had 128 KB of RAM06:07
SiFuh8087 CPU :-)  I had the IBM XT06:07
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ryuoSiFuh: https://monotech.fwscart.com/NuXT_-_MicroATX_Turbo_XT_-_955MHz_832K_RAM_XT-CF_SVGA_Floppy_Serial/p6083514_19777986.aspx07:44
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SiFuhryuo: hahaha cool as!09:01
SiFuhI want it! can play Off Road Racer on it ;-)09:03
SiFuhhttps://pasteboard.co/IXmgEes.png09:07
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frinnsthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cu-LuSB8Ns *drool*10:25
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SiFuhfrinnst: closes I owned was a breifcase sized laptop with a tiny screen running windows 3.1 and an Amiga hard disk. I think I booted it 2 or 3 times before I dismantled it. It was a free gift12:07
SiFuhI am installing on the biggest pile of crap _almost_ ever a CompaQ C700 and it has a wifi button that glows blue when you press it. The wifi card is Atheros, driver ATH5 in the kernel. It doesn't turn on when I press it and if I do rfkill unblock all it does work but the light stays orange instead of blue.12:23
SiFuhWhat I would like is the actual button to work12:25
SiFuhwithout doing some xmodkey stuff. I would like it to work without Xorg12:25
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weednixI keep working on tribu. I shame of my self as I learn stuff.16:36
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weednixcan I use qemu-img rebase and keep current snapshot updated if in the snapshot I only touch let's say /etc19:08
weednixexample, I install core collection on base_image.qcow2 and then create a on_top.qcow2 with base_image as back file,19:09
weednixdo changes on on_top in /etc19:09
weednixthen do changes on new_base_image like updating a package, and rebase on_top with new_base_image19:10
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: nginx: updated to version 1.17.920:25
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: p5-io-socket-ssl: 2.066 -> 2.06722:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: p5-list-allutils: 0.15 -> 0.1622:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: p5-http-message: 6.18 -> 6.2222:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: p5-datetime: 1.51 -> 1.5222:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: p5-datetime-format-strptime: 1.76 -> 1.7722:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: p5-datetime-format-builder: fix url22:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: p5-alien-build: 2.04 -> 2.0822:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: qownnotes: 20.2.8 -> 20.3.022:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: picard: 2.3 -> 2.3.122:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: xapian-core: 1.4.14 -> 1.4.1522:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: liblo: 0.30 -> 0.3122:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: r: 3.6.2 -> 3.6.322:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: libreoffice: 6.4.1.2 -> 6.4.2.122:23
stenurAny new bluetoothd?  Mar  3 21:11:56 kent kernel: bluetoothd[536]: segfault at 18 ip 0000563b3c6c9542 sp 00007ffd7744a9a0 error 4 in bluetoothd[563b3c6bb000+9a000]22:30
stenurMar  3 21:11:56 kent kernel: Code: eb 9c 66 0f 1f 44 00 00 48 89 ef e8 58 d1 ff ff eb 8c e8 d1 2a ff ff 90 41 54 55 48 89 fd 53 48 89 f3 48 83 ec 10 48 8b 7f 38 <4c> 8b 66 18 64 48 8b 04 25 28 00 00 00 48 89 44 24 08 31 c0 e8 3522:31
stenur9/11 woa woa heavy thing.22:31
stenur(But was pairing that shitty Philips TV in conjunction with bluealsa.)22:32
TimB_stenur: no newer bluez that i can see22:35
stenurTimB_: _/\_/\_/\_@22:40
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: wireshark: 3.2.1 -> 3.2.222:54
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omarsk1980ok i got what might be a stupid question for someone that cares about gtk themes23:50
omarsk1980nobody?23:51
omarsk1980i am using fluxbox and would like to change my gtk3.0 theme but must i have a gtk-settings daemon runnning or....23:52
jaegerhave you tried lxappearance or similar?23:56
jaegerThey write to rc files like .gtkrc-2.0 or whatever (I'm probably misremembering that)23:56
omarsk1980no i havent23:56
jaegerI think it should work with both 2 and 323:57
omarsk1980let me give it a shot23:57
jaegerIf that doesn't work, perhaps someone else will have an idea23:58

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